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21 June 2013 @ 07:57 am
Bryan Fuller interview  

IGN: Now, I fear the answer to this, because I thought Abigail was a great character, but should we assume that she’s definitely dead? She’s not hidden away somewhere, missing an ear?

Fuller: [Laughs]

IGN: That was a delicious Abigail dinner that Bedelia and Hannibal were having?

Fuller: Well, that’s definitely the message, is that Hannibal was feeding Bedelia -- because it’s tete de veau, which is head of veal. And he talks about veal in the conversation, and that’s all very much -- not so veiled for the audience, but a veiled conversation about who exactly they’re eating.

IGN: So rest in peace Abigail, basically?

Fuller: [Laughs] Right!

source (+ the rest of the interview)

My thoughts: This might just be my denial (it probably is), but I feel like he is evasive here. He only laughs at the first question, neither denying, nor affirming. Same with the second one, of sourts. He doesn't say yes. He says "that's the message" which just means that this is what they wanted the audience to believe, not that it is in fact true. And the third question is ambiguously worded enough. Rest in peace, though most commonly meaning "in death" doesn't NEED to refer to that.

I know this is all pretty thin, but I refuse to believe this delicious arc ended with her on Bedelia's dinner table. :(

Your thoughts?

ETA: Just coming back to say I don't know how I feel about my use of "delicious" to describe her arc....

bellonablack on June 21st, 2013 07:13 am (UTC)
I.....am torn. On one hand, it's obvious. On the other, it isn't.

And I got the feeling that Bryan did care about Abigail as a character, which is why she was so layered, and she is a rare female character and damnit.

I'm upset. And I'm in denial. But I won't lose hope until the end of season 2.

BUT. There is a chance of realness here. I'm just freaked out to be honest. I don't know but I think Abigail would be the type to be willing to lose --well spoilers--to avoid capture.

Damn though, I will be so mad if I don't know for sure by the end of season 2, that won't be funny. Right now she is schrodinger's cat basically for me. :/
Ishi-chan: abigailhobbsishi_chan on June 21st, 2013 07:27 am (UTC)
Yes, there is a really strong possibility that she's just dead. Part of the reason why we're not actually shown might be that she was important. Her death is different from the other people (victims of the week mostly, but also Georgia) who died on the show.

BUT I'm just not ready to give up hope yet. I'm kind of pissed they left it up in the air. I hate that in Season finales. I'm worried that they're just gonna leave it up to us to decide if she's alive and somewhere on the other end of the world or really dead.

Praying for her comeback in S2 basically. And not just in Will's imagination...
deadwalrusdeadwalrus on June 24th, 2013 12:29 pm (UTC)
I agree with you on the first count - it's the show's M.O. to show us the victims afterward, especially Hannibal's; he enjoys creating some kind of art and poetry out of them. There's not a lot to be made out of Will coughing up Abigail's ear other than a twinge of dramatic irony - certainly not on the same level as the mockery present in the death of Cassie Boyle, or the genius deception in killing Dr. Sutcliffe so that even the person he framed might believe that she did it.

Besides, as bellonablack stated above, it's obvious. Too obvious.

Edited at 2013-06-24 12:34 pm (UTC)
Ishi-chan: abi_fruitishi_chan on June 24th, 2013 01:39 pm (UTC)
There's not a lot to be made out of Will coughing up Abigail's ear other than a twinge of dramatic irony

LMAO The more I think about the ear the less I can take the whole thing seriously. HOW did Hannibal accomplish that exactly? I know Fuller said something about him stuffing it down Will's throat, but how would you do that without waking him up? How do you make sure the ear doesn't actually get stuck, at the very least on its way up and Will suffocates? LOL WHY did Hannibal think this was a good plan? Surely there are less ridiculous options for framing Will for murder and cannibalism?

I just LOL I feel like they wanted to be dramatic and threw out all sense in exchange.
deadwalrusdeadwalrus on June 24th, 2013 01:43 pm (UTC)
Welllll, there's three possibilities

1) He somehow induced Will into a blackout state;

2) He drugged Will, forced him to swallow it, then drugged him again so that he'd wake up and immediately want to vomit;

3) Far more likely, the ear was already in the sink when Will threw up and he just thought he swallowed it. Or we all misinterpreted it that it was in his throat, and it was always meant that he'd find it in the sink, for some reason.
deadwalrusdeadwalrus on June 24th, 2013 12:22 pm (UTC)
Look at where Hannibal's hand is in the last shot of Episode 12. I can easily see him ripping off her ear in one swift movement after that, and maybe disfiguring her a little more to make her less recognisable, then helping her go on the run as a fugitive with a new name. Hence "I'm sorry I couldn't protect you in this life.